This, all of it, it's like you PULLED IT FROM MY BRAIN re: Neal and Archie. I just ... MTE.
And since you encouraged my madness, a few further thoughts on the whole bottoming/topping ISSUE. One of my big BIG issues is that a LOT of writers (and, hey, also just people out and about) tend to conflate topping or bottoming in terms of power dynamics with the physical act of penetration and that is ... not correct. Which isn't to say there isn't something very powerful about that act, but it's not the be all, end all (just ask a lesbian!) and it is totally possible to bottom from the top or top from the bottom. And I feel like fandom (not ours in particular, but like, in general) as a mostly female and (probably) mostly straight group are sometimes not careful about representations of gay male sex. Of course, not all fanfic needs to be or should be realistic. That would defeat the point of fanfic. But in terms of this issue specifically, well ... let's say it's a bug in my bonnet :-P
And I feel like I should qualify that this is mostly not related to anything I've seen on _etc. I've been in fandom a while, and SPN fandom is ... considerably more, um, broad in its tastes. So this is like ... my fandom baggage or something, lol.
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This, all of it, it's like you PULLED IT FROM MY BRAIN re: Neal and Archie. I just ... MTE.
And since you encouraged my madness, a few further thoughts on the whole bottoming/topping ISSUE. One of my big BIG issues is that a LOT of writers (and, hey, also just people out and about) tend to conflate topping or bottoming in terms of power dynamics with the physical act of penetration and that is ... not correct. Which isn't to say there isn't something very powerful about that act, but it's not the be all, end all (just ask a lesbian!) and it is totally possible to bottom from the top or top from the bottom. And I feel like fandom (not ours in particular, but like, in general) as a mostly female and (probably) mostly straight group are sometimes not careful about representations of gay male sex. Of course, not all fanfic needs to be or should be realistic. That would defeat the point of fanfic. But in terms of this issue specifically, well ... let's say it's a bug in my bonnet :-P
And I feel like I should qualify that this is mostly not related to anything I've seen on _etc. I've been in fandom a while, and SPN fandom is ... considerably more, um, broad in its tastes. So this is like ... my fandom baggage or something, lol.